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Rapid Responses
(Selected passages from Ken Knabb’s correspondence)
Myopia of engaged Buddhism
Alternative education
Recommended reading list
Reply to a would-be suicide
Anarchism and primitivism
Critique of Theft magazine
Critique of CrimethInc
Classical music recommendations
Reformism and electoral politics (I)
Reformism and electoral politics (II)
The Frankfurt School
Reply to a Midwestern liberal
Understanding Debord dialectically
The situationists on economic crises
Translating Debord (I)
Translating Debord (II)
Translating Debord (III)
Pleasures and their limits under present conditions
Rejection of an academic invitation
Situationist Anthology bias?
Unavoidable hierarchies and specializations
Wilhelm Reich
Peak Oil? (I)
Peak Oil? (II)
Situationist photography?
Myopia of engaged Buddhism
[Response to Santikaro Bhikkhu, a Buddhist monk
then living in Thailand and coeditor of
“Entering the Realm of Reality”, a
collection of articles on socially engaged Buddhism.]
I read Entering the Realm of Reality when it first came
out, but was disappointed with it. In Dec. 97 I went to a
small gathering re it at Berkeley Zen Center led by Alan Senauke and
Jonathan Watts [the other two editors of the book]. Not wishing to interfere with an encounter
that might be significant for some of the participants (their chance to talk with each other or with the book
editors), I sat quietly through the readings from the
book and the brief discussion. Then, upon hearing that the
meeting would now wind to an end, I decided I really should
say something. (Alan had invited me to come and stir up
some discussion.) I attempted to condense the numerous
critiques I had of the book, and of the various remarks that
had been made, into five or ten minutes, and was met with
shock and utter incomprehension. Actually not so surprising given the mixture of
people and the brief time allotted.
I continue to be astonished at how myopic the entire engaged
Buddhist scene is. The EBs made one good advance in the1960s and 70s by recognizing and declaring that its
necessary, or at least okay, for Buddhists to have some sort
of social engagement. Twenty years later theyre still at
the same square one, though some of them have the delusion
that doing voluntary social service work while endlessly
rehashing a few timid social-democratic platitudes puts them
on the cutting edge of social change. The Buddhist Peace
Fellowship founding
statement had the merit of calling for a two-way exchange:
bring Buddhist insights to social movements, but also bring
social-radical insights to Buddhists. This latter aspect,
however, has remained mostly lip service. Almost never does
one hear, or read, any EB saying: We should investigate May
68, or the Spanish revolution, or the history of anarchism,
or the radical aspects of Marxism, or the innovative tactics
of the situationists, etc. Even though they may be mistaken
in some regards, there are probably some things we can learn
from them. If I remember rightly, you made some such remark
in one of your articles; but it was only one sentence and
was never followed up by you nor by anyone else I know of.
The only social movements that the EBs actually study or
refer to are utterly predictable things like Gandhiism that
are guaranteed to reinforce their Buddhist prejudices. It
seems to be assumed that if a theory or movement has
anything violent or angry or divisive about it, its not
worth looking into, period. In some ways the more seemingly
sophisticated EBs may be more hopeless in this regard than
the more naïve, because, having been in some militant group
in the sixties or having read some trendy postmodernists,
they think theyve already been there, done that, whereas
such things actually have virtually nothing to do with what I’m talking about.
[January 1999]
[A few months later I elaborated on these points in
Evading the Transformation of Reality: Engaged
Buddhism at an Impasse.]
[Response to a student who had just received a prestigious four-year
research scholarship and was wondering what he might
do to take radical advantage of his situation. “Presently, I feel very much like
what I’d imagine the Student Unionists of the University of Strasbourg felt like
when they were elected in 1966 — now that I’ve got a piece of power, I’m
somewhat at a loss as to how to properly utilize it. . . . My question to you
is: what should I do? Or, perhaps more properly, what would you do in my
situation?”]
I dont think your situation is at all comparable to that of
the Strasbourg scandalists. The latter found themselves in
an official position as elected leaders of several thousand
students. However ridiculous such a position might be in
most regards, it gave them the legal power to draw on
University (and/or Student Union) funds to pay for the “Student Poverty” pamphlet; to use school buildings for
alternative purposes; to issue press releases on official
stationery; to officially close the psychiatric bureaus,
etc. You are in no such position of influence, much less of “power. The slight prestige one gets from receiving even
the most exalted academic fellowship is trivial, and would
turn into ridicule of your pretension the moment you tried
to exploit it as if it were of any significance. Nobody is
going to pay any more attention to what you say or do merely
because you have such a fellowship. (In fact, many might pay
less attention, assuming that such a fellowship merely
indicates that youre a docile good student.)
On the other hand, the fellowship puts you in a relatively comfortable and
flexible personal situation. If I were in your position, I would use the time to
learn and explore and experiment. Learn at least French, and maybe one or two
other languages if you find you have the knack and inclination. Read the
situationists, of course, and their various forebears (Marx, the classic
anarchists, utopians, etc.). But also the general classics (particularly those
discussed in Rexroth’s two Classics Revisited volumes).
And history, sciences, religions, philosophies — theres
all sorts of interesting stuff out there, even though whats
relevant has to be extricated from the bullshit. This will
provide a good background for whatever you decide to do, and
is likely to suggest personal tangents for further
exploration and various experiments to try. To put all this
knowledge in perspective, mix it up with camping out and
traveling to other countries. And also internal trips via
drugs (carefully) or preferably via some form of
meditation...
Well, Im starting to feel like the proverbial Dutch uncle
giving platitudinous advice. My point is simply: explore and
experiment. By all means speak out, or write critical texts,
or carry out individual or collective actions if you feel sincerely inspired
to do so. But not just because you feel
you should do something or imitate the situationists.
Dont worry too much about the political relevance of all
this, or get into a guilt trip about being part of academia.
Just use the opportunity to have fun. Out of that will come
plenty of ideas for things youd like to do (subversive or
otherwise).
[August 1999]
Recommended reading list
[Response to a young correspondent who asked for a “recommended reading list.”]
Its flattering to be asked. But also a bit difficult to
give a general list thats very brief (especially not
knowing you, what your interests are, what youve already
read, etc.). But heres a few to start with:
Rexroth: Autobiographical Novel; various
poems and
essays;
Classics Revisited and
More Classics Revisited.
The latter two deal with many of the very best works.
Virtually each of them offers some pretty vital, sometimes
unique, slant on what it means to be human, what life is,
has been, or could be, new conceptions of self and world,
etc. And Rexroth gives a better hint, in fewer words, of
what those key aspects are than any other writer I know of.
You might keep his list in the back of your mind and check
out one or another item from time to time. Just glancing
through his tables of contents, here are a few of my
favorites: Homer, Herodotus, the Kalevala, The Satyricon, The Golden Ass,
The Tale of Genji, The Dream of the Red
Chamber, Chaucer, Montaigne, Don Quixote, Casanovas
memoirs, Tom Jones, Tristram Shandy, Gibbon, The Red and the
Black, Baudelaire, Whitman, Rimbaud, Huckleberry Finn, Tao
Te Ching, Blake, Fords Parades End.
Some more modern works Ive liked:
Henry Miller, Tropic of Cancer, Tropic of Capricorn
Breton, Nadja, Surrealist Manifestos, etc.
Mencken, The Vintage Mencken or other selections
Orwell, essays
Kerouac, The Dharma Bums
Snyder, Earth House Hold
Buber, I and Thou
Alan Watts, Nature, Man and Woman
Reps and Senzaki, Zen Flesh, Zen Bones
Political:
Knabb, SI Anthology
Vaneigem, The Revolution of Everyday Life
Debord, The Society of the Spectacle, film scripts, various
other works
Marx, Communist Manifesto, etc.
Selections from utopians and anarchists such as Fourier,
William Morris, Bakunin, Kropotkin, Emma Goldman,
Alexander Berkman, Murray
Bookchin
Paul Goodman, Communitas, various other books or essays
Mumford, The City in History
Etc.
If youre into radical theory and history you can find
numerous other works mentioned in the SI Anthology or Public
Secrets.
[October 1999]
[Since that time I have put together a much larger list:
Gateway to the Vast Realms: Recommended Readings
from Literature to Revolution.]
Reply to a would-be suicide
[Response to a long and very moping letter from
someone who said he was considering suicide.]
Im sorry if I seem unsympathetic, but I think its usually a waste of time to
try to convince someone that life is worth living if they seem intent on
believing that it isnt.
Personally, I might consider suicide if I was faced with torture or life
imprisonment or a painful terminal illness. Otherwise I see life as continually
interesting, though often difficult and upsetting. A thousand lives would not be
enough to explore all the things Id like to.
Of course the present society is depressing, and threatens to get even worse if
we dont manage to do something about it. So do something about it, instead of
moaning about how your right to life (theres no such thing) is being taken
from you and swallowing that Steiner-Gaia hogwash in an effort to find some
meaning.
“The thing that endures, that gives value to life, is comradeship, loyalty,
bravery, magnanimity, love, the relations of people in direct communication with
each other. From this comes the beauty of life, its tragedy and its meaning, and
from nowhere else (Rexroth).
“In a society that has abolished every adventure, the only adventure that
remains is to abolish that society (May 1968 graffito). Thats a rhetorical
oversimplification there are still quite a few other possible adventures
within the interstices of the system but you get the idea.
Heres an excerpt from Rexroths autobiography, describing his experiences as a
World War II conscientious objector working in a psychiatric ward:
The psychotic, to my mind, means business, while after youve done a certain
amount of counseling with a neurotic, you feel like saying, “Oh, for Gods sake,
go out and get a job. Have something happen in your life.” I once took out on my
back porch a girl who was coming to me for counseling and said, “You see that
woman next door? She is a scarcely literate Irish woman. Her husband is an
alcoholic. One son is feeble-minded. Another son is a tail gunner flying out of
North Africa. The other son is a rifleman with Patton, who believes in killing
as many people as possible on both sides. Her mother is senile and incontinent.
If all these things were happening to you, you wouldnt be here talking to me.
You wouldnt have time to be neurotic. You need something to happen to you. You
need to do something to act.” The girl, incidentally, did act and get
“well” shortly.
I dont mean to equate you with that neurotic girl, but simply to stress that
there are lots of possibilities. Its up to you to take some initiatives,
instead of waiting for something good to happen. The fact that your mother did
not improve like you had hoped does not mean that people cannot fundamentally
change their lives. Many do, every day. I dont mean that all their problems are
miraculously solved, but that they learn how to deal with what previously seemed
like intolerable problems.
Im unimpressed and bored with people who are constantly indulging in
extravagant, apocalyptic alternatives. The choice is not always between
“climbing a mountain and doing nothing. A lot of possibilities are much
simpler, but they get drowned out by the spiritual melodramas that people create
for themselves.
Have you tried Zen practice, for example? I dont claim that its a cure-all,
but its certainly more effective than reading a lot of books or speculating on
the nature of man and the universe for getting down to basics. Who am I? What am
I doing here? What are my real choices? What things are important, what not?
Some problems (e.g. our present social conditions) remain and still need to be
dealt with. But others, whether petty personal frustrations or dramatic
“existential dilemmas, tend to fade away as you settle into paying attention to
whats happening right now.
You speculate about the split in the western mind and hypothesize about using
the human body as a means to a resolution. Well, start with your own. Instead of
yacking about seeking a place to stand like Archimedes, try just sitting.
If you think thats too much of a challenge and prefer to kill yourself, bon
voyage.
[February 2001]
[He thanked me for the salutary “kick in the ass.”]
[Response to an anarcho-syndicalist upset by the rabidly primitivist tendencies that were
then flourishing within the anarchist scene tendencies which are still all too present,
but which seem to have faded somewhat in recent years.]
I share your concern about this phenomenon. But Id like to make the
following points:
1) Part of the problem, or the origin of the problem, lies in anarchism
itself. The largely ideological character of anarchism (fixation on
one-dimensional Manichean oppositions between absolutist concepts like
Freedom vs. Authority, Individualism vs. Collectivism, Centralization vs.
Decentralization, etc.) has meant that the anarchist movement has always
been chock full of quackery and mysticism of every sort. I dont mean that
those eccentricities have always been bad (they form part of the
countercultural stew that in many cases has actually been much more
significant and innovative than the orthodox anarchist movement); but that
since being an anarchist has generally required nothing more than being
in favor of total freedom and other such vaguenesses, virtually any
crackpot who wants to has always been able to claim to be one. As long as
the orthodox anarchists accept this ideological terrain (particularly if
they fear to upset anarchist unity), it is difficult for them to contest
the various extremisms that constantly crop up, because these latter can
always seem to be simply more radical, more authentic forms of the
essential principles of anarchism (e.g., if being anarchist means that
youre opposed to the State above all else, what could be further away from
the State than a hunter-gatherer society?). This is why Marx and the
situationists, in their different ways, explicitly avoided identifying with
any ideal to be realized, but stressed a continually self-superseding
engagement with the real movement that is suppressing existing conditions.
2) To a great extent these delirious forms develop because they speak to
issues or feelings that the radical movement has failed to confront. (I made
a similar point apropos of what I saw as the situationists blindspot re
religion.) A movement that can only endlessly rehash musty councilist or
anarcho-syndicalist dogmas (however many kernels of truth the latter may
contain) is not enough. People sense that there are other things to life,
and they will seek spokespeople who address those concerns, be they issues
of culture, everyday life, spiritual experiences, ecology, or nature.
3) I suspect that any sort of de facto united front against primitivism
would not come to much. If for no other reason than the fact that any
primarily defensive movement has already conceded the terrain and the
initiative to the enemy and therefore generally loses the battle (like the
people who focus obsessively on combatting neofascists, and end up
accomplishing little more than giving the latter more of the publicity they
thrive on). I think its appropriate to attack bullshit wherever and in
whatever form it appears; but you have to be careful not to get too caught
up in defining yourself as Anti-X, not to see any particular form as the
Number-One Enemy that has to be opposed at all cost.
4) Im not interested in taking part in an ongoing discussion of this issue.
Having made my original attack on technophobes in The Joy of Revolution
and now the recent followup with Filiss [The
Poverty of Primitivism], I intend to move on to other
things. However I would be pleased to be informed of any new developments
(copies of critiques you publish or of notable primitivist responses, etc.).
[March 2001]
Critique of Theft magazine
[Upon receiving a copy of “Theft” magazine (Melbourne, Australia) with a request for
comments.]
I dont have time to comment on Theft #2 in any detail. The most notable
criticism I have is that the last chapter is sometimes rather simplistic.
While I think its fine to recommend that people seek pursuits that are
enjoyable and satisfying to them, it seems to me rather silly to declare
that life should be perpetual ecstasy etc. This kind of should be
amounts to little more than that you think it would be nice if things were
that way. Its ultimately pretty meaningless, like saying that insects
“should have the right to live freely without being eaten by birds. Its
a false reasoning which you have probably picked up from Vaneigem. He
rightly criticizes traditional leftisms overemphasis on sacrificing for the
cause, but then flips into an equally unjustified opposite conclusion the
pleasure is the supreme criterion for everything, and then to the even more
absurd implication that a successful revolution will somehow magically
produce endless unalloyed pleasure.
Again, I think its good that you encourage people to reexamine their lives,
to reduce addictive consumership, and to make space for relaxation and
reflection. But you have to be careful not to be too rigid in your
recommendations. The more you consume, the less you live makes a good
graffiti, it conveys a good general point. But it shouldnt be taken too
literally, as if it were a precise scientific formula. In your SHIT
[“Self Health Index Tester”] percentage test, for example, you more or less equate the more of yourself
is actually yours (a rather vague notion in any case) with lower SHIT
percentages. This amounts to an inverse economic fetishization, a sort of
anti-economic puritanism, as if enjoyment was always inversely proportional
to the degree of economic taint. Actually, of course, in many cases an
activity that creates profit for someone may nevertheless be more enjoyable
than another activity that puristically avoids the market. The best things
in life are not always free, even if they should be. If you frequently
present this kind of over-simplified formula, people with enough sense to
know better will not take you seriously regarding the many other areas where
you have valid points to make.
Its also important to resist the temptation to be too specific. Its good
to give a few examples to give people a clearer idea of what youre talking
about. But if you fall into the positivist trap you end up trivializing
your points. Many of our problems do not have easy solutions. One person in
one situation may be better off to quit his job and try to get by in a
different way. Another person in another situation might be better off to
get a job rather than spending his life half starved scrounging in garbage
cans and living in the streets. The choice involves a lot of factors (does
he have a family? what kind of jobs are available? what sort of social
welfare is available if he doesnt work? how risky are the alternative
illegal expedients he might use? etc.) that are more complex than simply
declaring that work time is bad and free time is good. Part of being
genuinely antiauthoritarian involves recognizing that the ultimate
solution to the social question involves leaving people to figure out
their own solutions to many of their problems.
In this context, I would say that although your pamphlet contains many valid
points, the general format strikes me as somewhat too similar to ordinary
publicity collages of slogans and ads that add up to an overwhelming
barrage of frantic bits of advice: DO THIS AND YOULL FEEL GREAT! AVOID
DOING THAT, ITS ALIENATING! . . . To take just one example, you say Day
dreaming subverts the world! But you could just as justifiably have said
“Day dreaming helps preserve alienated society (by providing a
psychological safety valve). Try to resist the temptation to rigidly
separate things into Good and Bad. Most things are much more subtle and
complex, they contain different aspects, they may even become transformed
into their opposites. Its usually better to examine things as calmly as
possible, so as to foster peoples own reflective thinking. Have the faith
that if you have really said something relevant to their lives, they
themselves will figure out some appropriate conclusion without having
simplistic formulas shouted at them.
I realize that in other parts of your pamphlet you do go into many of these
issues in somewhat more nuanced detail. But I think you will see what I mean
about these general tendencies.
[May 2001]
[Upon receiving a copy of the CrimethInc book
“Days of War, Nights of Love”
with a request for comments.
When I replied, I was under the erroneous impression that the guy who
sent it to me was one of the authors.]
Thanks also for the CrimethInc book. In answer to your request for comments,
I dont have time to go into any great detail, but here are some brief
impressions:
On the positive side, the book is well written and communicates a number of
good points. In this regard its more interesting than most anarchist
writings, which usually just repeat the same few basic ideas for the
thousandth time. And it is evident that your ideas are closely linked to
actual experiences when you talk about the feel of freedom, the reader
senses that you know what youre talking about based on your own experiments
and adventures.
It seems to me, however, that there are also some criticizable aspects.
Despite your cautions against ideology, your book is riddled with
simplistic, unqualified declarations. In some places you are admirably open
and modest, but in others you come on like you have definitive answers to
practically everything from the meaning of life to whether people should
wear deodorant or not.
Many of your descriptions of radical struggles are rather simplistic. One
minor example out of many: To describe the Paris Commune as a sort of
continuous anarchist festival for a few months, before the usual spoilsports
regained control and slaughtered everybody (p. 83) is a really gross
falsification of reality. Even if there was a festive aspect that it is
important to acknowledge, the Commune was also filled with suffering,
self-sacrifice, patriotism, compromises, confusions, betrayals, sordid
political intrigues, conflicting ideologies. And part of the interest and
importance of the Commune is precisely that its repressors were not the
usual spoilsports i.e. the relation of forces and classes was
complicated and in some ways unprecedented, the people involved were not
totally clear about who were friends and who were enemies. Readers who know
nothing about the Commune will get an erroneous and trivialized impression
of what went on, while those who actually know something about it may
conclude that your social analyses are not to be trusted that youre
presenting things very selectively in order to reinforce your ideology.
Just as you present rebellious actions as almost purely GOOD, you tend to
present the system as almost purely BAD. In reality, just as most revolts
and radical movements have been full of mistakes and limitations, many
aspects of the present society are positive, or at least potentially so. The
very fact that humanity has survived to this point demonstrates this. We all
have a natural tendency to define our perspectives in these good vs. bad
terms it makes it easier to drum up enthusiasm for struggle but when
it gets too simplistic it falsifies reality and thus actually hinders any
serious struggle.
There is also a recurring moralizing simplisticness. It is good that you
recognize the element of necessary hypocrisy and compromise in our lives.
But a lot of your agonizing over whether this or that practice is
hypocritical is, to me, a phony, nonexistent issue. I do not view my
options primarily in terms of whether I am implicated in capitalism, as if
that were some sort of sin to be avoided at all cost. Nor, conversely, do I
consider that I am accomplishing anything very notable if I avoid some such
compromise, as if radical struggle were a matter of more and more people
gradually becoming less and less implicated in the prevailing system. That
perspective is just as simplistic as pacifists feeling that we will arrive
at peace by more and more people becoming pacifists (while failing to
confront economic and other factors that engender wars despite most peoples
preference for peace). While I salute the sense of experimentation of your
friend who tried to live off garbage pickings instead of buying food, it
does not seem to me that such choices have much to do with radical strategy.
If you take May 68, for example, the outcome hinged almost entirely on
whether or not the workers occupying their factories would take that one
additional step of restarting up necessary production and distribution under
their own control. In such a context, whether this or that worker had
previously been implicated in the system can be seen as largely
irrelevant. (It is true, of course, that the workers previous habits of
working, consuming, TV watching, etc., undoubtedly contributed to their
hesitancy to take that final step. But thats not at all the same thing as
saying that the way to overcome capitalism is for people to withdraw from it
as much as possible.)
I think that you could have made most of your points in far less space (a
pamphlet rather than a book).
There is also an impression of excessive self-importance. I realize that
your opening bit about the spectre of CrimethInc is at least partially ironic, but there still is a sense that
you CrimethInc agents believe you are really hot stuff, a pole of
international subversion, and that you are trying to mythologize yourselves
(so people will have an image of cool CrimethInc underground adventurers
like they used to about Che Guevara or the Weathermen, etc.). Without
judging whether your present or potential importance justifies such posing,
I think its usually more important to go in the other direction, to
demystify yourselves and the intimidating images people have of radical
underground heavies, rather than building them up.
I apologize for not giving more detailed examples of what I mean. But I
think that this should suffice to give you a general idea.
As it happens, a group in Australia recently sent me an issue of their
Theft magazine (its also online at
www.theftmag.com) and asked me
for comments. Although you will no doubt find some differences between
yourselves and them, I think there are also a number of commonalities. In
any case, I am appending my remarks to them because I think that some of the
more general points also apply to your book.
[Here followed a copy of the above critique of “Theft” magazine. The
“theftmag” link no longer works.]
[June 2001]
[The correspondent and other contacts subsequently posted this response on
various online forums. It has also been reproduced at the
libcom website.]
Classical music recommendations
[Response to a correspondent interested in learning about classical music, who asked if I had any recommendations
to get him started.]
Here are some of my favorites:
MEDIEVAL & RENAISSANCE MUSIC (various collections)
SCARLATTI, Harpsichord Pieces
J.S. BACH, Solo Cello Suites, Harpsichord Partitas, Brandenburg Concertos,
Concerto for Two Violins
MOZART, Haffner Symphony, Jupiter Symphony, The Marriage of Figaro (my
favorite opera)
BEETHOVEN, Piano Sonatas, Kreutzer Sonata (violin-piano), Archduke Trio,
Symphonies (Eroica, Fifth, Ninth)
BERLIOZ, Harold in Italy
DEBUSSY, Afternoon of a Faun, La Mer, Piano Pieces
SATIE, Piano Pieces
STRAVINSKY, The Rite of Spring
PROKOFIEV, Piano Concertos 1, 2 & 3
ORFF, Carmina Burana
BRECHT-WEILL, Threepenny Opera (original German version)
It does make some difference which performers. But most of the ones you will
come across should be pretty good. The best way to start, since there’s so much
and you won’t know till you begin to get into it what sort of things you may
like, is to check out recordings from the library. Besides the above, try
various general selections that are, or purport to be, among the best (“Great
Recordings of the Century” etc.). If you find you don’t care for one composer,
don’t worry about it, try another. Eventually some of it may grow on you as you
get more familiar with it. Bon appetit!
[January 2002]
Reformism and electoral politics (I)
[“So are you arguing for a revolutionary day when we abolish political
representation and private property, and that it is futile to push for an
authentic ballot initiative system within the current context?”]
I am not saying that such efforts are not worth engaging in. I am simply
pointing out that by themselves such changes will not suffice. In Chapter
2 of The Joy of Revolution I tried to examine the pros and cons of various
types of reformist projects. At the risk of oversimplifying, I can sum it up
by saying that (1) it is necessary to work for reforms (or improvements),
and (2) reforms are not enough. Some reforms are relatively clear, others
are more dubious because they imply involving oneself in so many
compromises, most are a complex mixture. You have to decide where to put
your energy, considering both your own passions and your own judgment of how
some particular issue relates to the society and social struggles as a
whole.
I will soon be sending out some excerpts from that chapter relating to
electoral politics. You will note that although my general drift is rather
anti-electoral, it is not rigidly or absolutely so (as is the usual
anarchist line). I am not saying Dont vote, or Dont campaign for “progressive issues or politicians. I am simply saying: Know what you are
doing, be aware of the drawbacks as well as the advantages of whatever
actions you take; and of the fact that there are many other tactics, some of
which may be more effective and more healthy (because they are more direct
and less encumbered with hypocrisy etc.). . . . As long as
enormous economic differences continue to exist in the society as a whole
(so that millionaires can manipulate the publics views through advertising,
or influence elected officials so as to prevent a given measure from being
enforced even if it is passed, etc.), it usually will not make much
difference if people are provided a token opportunity to vote on a few
more issues.
[October 2002]
Reformism and electoral politics (II)
[Response to a correspondent upset about my pre-election
message about the limits of electoral politics: “I understand the limits of the electoral process, but leaning so far left as to be left out is not an option. The rich are using the electoral process to run over us again and again: in San Francisco we have props R and N and A, and we MUST get out and vote against them or there will be hell to pay the day after. So sending an e-mail that gives us 5 good reasons to stay home and throw our votes away is a rather reckless stance to take, no matter how hip it may feel. Save it for after weve all gotten out and voted to save our sorry skins one more time.”]
I dont believe there was anything in my statement that said Dont vote.
On the contrary, I explicitly (though briefly) dissociated myself from the
typical anarchist position (which is indeed to urge people not to vote). I
simply pointed out the limits of putting all your eggs in this one extremely
rigged basket, which is one of the main ways that peoples attention is
diverted from other tactics and other possibilities.
Please note also that the message I mailed out was only a few excerpts from
a much longer text, The Joy of
Revolution. Heres
another passage from Chapter 2 of that text:
In the name of realism, reformists limit themselves to pursuing
“winnable”
objectives, yet even when they win some little adjustment in the system it
is usually offset by some other development at another level. This doesnt
mean that reforms are irrelevant, merely that they are insufficient. We have
to keep resisting particular evils, but we also have to recognize that the
system will keep generating new ones until we put an end to it. To suppose
that a series of reforms will eventually add up to a qualitative change is
like thinking we can get across a ten-foot chasm by a series of one-foot hops.
Social issues are complexly interrelated. People must be encouraged to
carefully examine these interrelations, and to think and act for themselves
instead of merely reacting to an unending succession of urgent issues the
spectacle presents to them, or the system will never be changed.
[October 2002]
[Response to a query about what the situationists thought of the “Frankfurt School”
(Adorno, Marcuse, Walter Benjamin, etc.), and what I think of them. I expressed
only my own
view, but my impression is that the situationists felt much the same way.]
Very briefly (we can talk at more length if you’re in Berkeley sometime), I
don’t think the Frankfort School is essential reading. There’s no doubt a lot of
meaty stuff there, but it’s significantly diluted by its academic orientation,
which tends to reinforce/encourage studying these things for their own sake, as
an academic game. Which is why the FS is so popular among academics and others
who want to avoid practical decisions and commitment. This is verified by the
fact that the FS people themselves had relatively little engagement, even if
their rhetoric sometimes verged on it. When something like May 68 came along, I
don’t think any of them had much idea of what it might imply, even if some of
the participants thought they were fulfilling the FS insights.
I’ve seen a lot of people get lost in such swamps, concluding that it is
necessary to seriously study them (or Marx, for that matter), and never coming
up with any significant fruit. You have to weigh the pluses and minuses. There
are things you could learn from the FS, but there are also things you can learn
from Gary Snyder or Paul Goodman or Rexroth or Mumford . . . or Homer or
Herodotus or Gibbon or Montaigne or Lao Tzu . . . . Part of it depends on your own
tastes what draws you, how do you feel after reading a particular author.
After I read Debord, I’m charged up, full of ideas, having learned lots of good
implicit lessons (noting how he addressed some issue, what he left out . . .).
After I read Adorno, I’m mostly just bored and depressed. For you it may be
different.
[June 2003]
Reply to a Midwestern liberal
[Reply to an old friend of my family who lives in a rather conservative region
of the country. “I have read with great interest your autobiography. . . . We had not anticipated that anarchy is where you are at.’ Well
have to give some thought to that belief, since we just dont know much about
it. We consider ourselves pretty much garden-variety liberals who still
espouse political democracy. One obvious problem is that the U.S. can no longer
fall into that category and has become sort of a corporate oligarchy. I do feel
that capitalism is a failed system and needs to be replaced with a more just
process which doesnt reward the rich and penalize the poor. However, I guess
that I have looked at the human race (6-plus billion of us now) and thought that
some sort of governmental structure would be necessary to at least maintain some
semblance of order — preferably a world government with total abolition of nation
states. Therefore, I need to know a lot more about anarchy — perhaps you can
supply some especially good reading references.”]
“Anarchism” is not exactly where Ive been at since 1970, when I
discovered the situationists (who, among other things, criticized anarchists for
tending to be too rigidly and dogmatically attached to the ideals of that
particular ideology). But its close enough for preliminary purposes.
As for how “practical” an anarchist (or situationist, or
libertarian socialist, or whatever it might called) society might be, it should
be understood that it would not, as popularly believed, be “anything goes” or
“against all organization,” but merely against hierarchical organization. It
could be seen as simply the fullest, most authentic form of democracy, democracy
extended to the maximum in all areas of life.
But such an extension would ultimately require also going beyond
capitalism, inasmuch as one persons or groups “ownership” of basic needs of
life is obviously very undemocratic. As long as such an economic system is
allowed to continue, it naturally tends to maintain its unequal power and to
undermine any real democracy due to the disproportionate influence that money
wields (e.g. by manipulating news through ownership of media, by controlling
political candidates through bribes or “contributions,” and by countless other
forms of pressure and grossly unequal “competition”).
Furthermore, capitalism cannot be overcome merely by
“nationalizing” wealth, because this merely tends to replace individual
capitalist companies by one big capitalist company: the State, which generates
its own new types of ruling classes: bureaucracies, with their own vested
interests.
An anarchist, or genuinely socialist or communist, society (as
opposed to the existing societies that have very falsely appropriated the latter
terms) would thus not only be noncapitalist, but also nonstatist. The State
would be replaced by various types and levels of grassroots, “bottom-up”
democratic organization, with the larger-scale or “upper” levels being carefully
limited and controlled by the “lower” levels (e.g. via delegates with very
limited power, carefully mandated to deal with specific issues in specific ways,
as opposed to “representatives” who have the power to pass hundreds of laws on
any and ever topic and stay in power for years before they can be replaced).
This is indeed a big and very complex project, and one that may
never happen. But in my view its the only one that actually has a chance to
work in the long run. Which is not to say that other, more modest “reformist”
projects are not also important. But I think that the latter can most accurately
be seen as merely defensive holding actions. To once and for all get beyond the
system that keeps generating all these “abuses,” I think that a more fundamental
change is necessary.
As for “good reading references,” if I may be so immodest, I
think one of the best is my own magnum opus,
The Joy of Revolution. It
covers all sorts of areas, the pros and cons of all sorts of different political
tactics and strategies, with some speculations about how a liberated society
might function.
[July 2003]
Understanding Debord dialectically
[Response to a lengthy series of questions about Debord and the
situationists.]
Your questions are rather long and involved. I hope you will excuse me for
not trying to answer them all in detail, which would be rather
time-consuming. Instead, I am going to take a little different angle and
just try to make one very general point on your whole orientation.
It seems to me that your questions reflect what I consider to be a basic
(and very common) misconception: namely, taking the spectacle (and various
other concepts e.g. the subject, the commodity, capital) as rigidly
fixed logical categories. If you do this, you automatically run into all
sorts of apparent dilemmas, or even paradoxes Does Debord believe the
spectator is totally dominated by the spectacle, or only partially? If
totally, how can revolt ever happen? If only partially, how come he is
always phrasing matters in such seemingly totalistic ways?
I believe that such problems lie in the way you are relating to the book.
(For simplicitys sake Ill refer to you, but please dont take it
personally. Your questions and concerns are quite reasonable, and certainly
more serious than most peoples half-baked reactions to situationist theory.
The same criticisms would apply to virtually everyone who discusses Debord.)
In my opinion, Debords book like Marxs writings, and dialectical theory
in general is generally misunderstood when it is viewed objectively, as
if it were an ordinary description of reality, using the ordinary categories
of thought. Instead, I believe that it can be rightly understood only by
being used. Not used in an imitative, rote way like a cookbook or a car
repair manual, but used nonetheless in a practical way.
Consider the famous May 68 graffiti, Be realistic, demand the impossible.
If you look at that phrase from an ordinary logical commonsense point of view,
it seems like nonsense. By definition, the impossible can never happen, so how
can it be realistic to demand it? Probably that was indeed how it seemed to many
people who first saw it on a wall back in 1968. But many other people did
understand it because they were then involved in practical-critical actions.
Because of that involvement, they could then see that the usual, seemingly
practical notion that one should limit oneself to striving for what is
“realistically possible” was actually part of the problem, in that it presumed
the existence of the system that actually needed to be fundamentally
transformed. The things desired by the rebels were indeed impossible in the
context of the present system, but they might become possible if one were to get
beyond that system. And to a certain extent, even while the system persisted,
the mere action of opposing the system already created a new mental space,
liberating people’s imaginations so that they could envision things that would
previously have seemed impossible. (The same point, with the same ironic playing
with the apparent paradox, is made by Oscar Wilde in the
epigram to Chapter 4 of The Joy of Revolution.)
Another similar graffiti from the same time: In a society that has
destroyed all adventure, the only possible adventure lies in the destruction
of the society.
Here again, if you take this too woodenly literally it seems like a
self-contradiction (one adventure remains possible, so clearly all
adventure has not been rendered impossible). But if you lighten up and take
the slogan just a little more loosely, theres no problem understanding what
is being said.
These examples may be a bit simplistic, but I think that much the same
applies to many misconceptions of the theses in Debords book, even if his
points are usually more complex and subtle.
At one point you say: It seems to me that the very nature of Debords
descriptions of spectacle, subject and situation effectively rule out any
kind of interaction between these two figures (spectacle and its opposition)
that might allow the generation of something new.
If that were really the case, Debords theory would be stupid and absurd and
very few people would have paid any attention to it. In reality, Debords
descriptions deal with scarcely anything but such interactions. They are
precisely what is being examined and analyzed in so many different ways in
all his works.
Again, you say: If something is held up by the spectacle, is it not
spectacle itself?
The answer is that, looked at from one angle, it may be, but from another it
may not be.
And again: the spectacle and the subjects within it are effectively locked
into a vicious circle.
That may be so if you look at them purely schematically, as if it were a
mathematical formula that said A causes B, and B causes A. But you must
keep in mind that both the spectacle and the various subjects are fuzzier
than that, more complicated, more variable and changeable and
multidimensional. Thesis #3, for example, says that the spectacle presents
itself both as the society itself and as a part of that society. Many other
theses look at it from many other seemingly mutually contradictory angles.
There is enough continuity that it makes sense to refer to the spectacle
(so that instead of a chaotic collection of disparate phenomena its more a
matter of analyzing various developments and mutations of a single, more or
less coherent underlying social tendency), yet enough variables that you
need to be aware that the spectacle is not one distinct, eternal thing.”
Again, you say: I think that the theses like this one, which crop up
throughout the book, show that the spectacle must penetrate the spectator.
By penetrate I mean to suggest something other than a totally resistant
subject — a subject that is not invulnerable to the effect of the
environment. The basis of a Situationist refusal of spectacle is the primacy
of a subject that is in its essence absolutely distinct from the structure
that constrains its possibilities.
Why absolutely distinct? (Couldnt it just be partially different?) Why
does a subject have to be totally resistant? (Couldnt it just be somewhat
rebellious in certain circumstances and relatively subservient in others?)
Dont you see that youre just painting yourself in a corner with these
extreme statements about fantasized pure entities? Water can flood a
“whole country without necessarily turning that country into 100% water.
People can resist the flooding, or try to stay above the water by swimming
or getting in a boat, without necessarily being totally resistant to
water. As a matter of fact, far from being absolutely distinct from water,
peoples bodies are composed largely of water, and they would soon die if
they were deprived of it. This may seem like a silly example I dont
claim that the analogy is exact but Im trying to make you see that the
problem lies largely in the way youre posing it this fantasy of pure,
absolutely antagonistic entities.
That sort of manicheanism is inherited from religion and from political
ideologies such as anarchism that unconsciously carry on the same rigid
dualistic point of view. The idea, for example, that humanity is inherently
good while something else (the devil, capitalism, the state, the spectacle)
is totally evil. In reality things are usually much more blurry. The
spectacle is not some totally evil entity, it is simply a social-historical
process that happens to have gotten out of hand in recent centuries (or more
precisely, it is a symptom of the extreme development of another such
process: capitalism). Theres nothing inherently wrong with people
passively looking at things (as if active was always good and looking
and passive were always bad). Debord like Hegel and Marx before him
is simply using very trenchant terms/concepts to make clear, incisive
points. He is not trying to construct a philosophy or to provide a
“scientific description of reality.
These remarks dont answer your questions, they merely amount to saying that
things are more complex than they may seem if you stick too rigidly to
Debords words (treating them as a spectacle, in fact). But I hope they may
help you to step back (and/or move forward) and get a little different
perspective as you try to deal with those questions.
For example, its true that Debord in SOS [The Society of the Spectacle]
is a bit more “optimistic” re the possibilities of revolution, and more
pessimistic in his later Comments [Comments on the Society of the
Spectacle]. But even in the latter book, if you read carefully you will see
that he doesn’t see things quite so totalistically as it may appear at first
sight. I think the passages you refer to that seem to indicate a “total” defeat
are more a manner of speaking. In the broad context, there has indeed been a
major defeat in that many possibilities open a few decades ago are now (more or
less) closed (for the moment). But here and there in Comments
there are hints that this defeat may not be definitive, that the system also
still has its own serious contradictions. Even if the integrated spectacle
“permeates all reality that doesnt mean it totally and permanently
dominates everything or everyone.
The point, I think, is that this issue can best be debated in a looser, more
open manner, bringing into consideration all sorts of data and experiences,
rather than getting caught up in tedious academic-ideological debates over
such vaguenesses as the nature of the subject or how Debords position
on the subject as a generative process differs from Althussers, etc.
The same thing could be said about the “psychological” issues you mention. They
are real issues, and you can find lots of fruitful insights in Vaneigem’s Revolution of Everyday Life and in Reichs early works. Voyers
brief text on Reich is
interesting (though I dont think much of Voyers other writings), and I
discuss some related issues in
Double-Reflection and the
Case Study and in parts of
The Joy of Revolution. But I suggest that
you not take seemingly opposed viewpoints too seriously e.g.
fantasizing a split between the supposedly more Reichian-Vaneigemist King
Mobbers and the supposedly more rigid or dogmatic Debordists. (As is
often the case in such splits, the real issues were to a great extent more
banal see the SIs account in I.S. #12:
The Latest Exclusions.)
By all means, in this examination do include close study of Debords
writings. But I suggest that you take them just a bit more lightly than you
seem to have been doing, bearing in mind that they were written by a real
and very lively human being who assumed readers who were also lively,
experiencing beings, and who therefore (even if he doesnt always say so as
explicitly as does Vaneigem) always assumes that life, revolt, etc. are
always in play, despite surface appearances. His seemingly pessimistic
statements are to some extent just jabs to arouse people about some issue or
other. Wake up! Get real! We lost in that battle over there, stop
pretending we didnt! Pull yourself together and lets figure out where we
go from here (taking into account the following factors . . .)! Thats really
what Debords writings are always doing, no matter how abstruse and complex
they may seem to be.
[January 2005]
The situationists on economic crises
[Response to a query about the extent to which Debord subscribed to the notion
that capitalism had solved its objective, or economic contradictions.]
Debord (and the situs in general) did not believe that capitalism had
definitively resolved all of its contradictions. They pointed out that it
had partially or temporarily resolved some of them e.g., objectively
through New Deal-type state intervention that served as a corrective to the
previously unregulated economic anarchy, and subjectively through the
development of the spectacle and the general reorientation toward consumer
concerns (see SOS #43).
Contrary to the ignorant and mendacious pseudocritiques by Dauvé
[Gilles Dauvé, a.k.a. Jean Barrot] and others,
it is clear that Debord was quite knowledgeable about Marxian economic
theory, even if he didnt yap about it all the time or clutter up his
writings with lengthy undigested excerpts from Capital.
In SOS #82 he ridicules the notion that economic crises are scientifically
predictable, and in SOS #88
he notes that, predictable or not, such crises alone will not suffice to bring
about a revolution. In SIA p.
228 [Situationist
International Anthology, new edition pp. 291-292] he
ridicules the ultraleftists who are locked into this fetish (he is talking
about peoples retrospective debate on what caused May 68):
Overcome by their shock in May, all the researchers of historical
nothingness have admitted that no one had in any way foreseen what occurred.
We must acknowledge a sort of exception to this in the case of all the sects
of resurrected Bolsheviks, of whom it is fair to say that for the last
thirty years they have not for one instant ceased heralding the imminence of
the revolution of 1917. But they too were badly mistaken: this was not at
all 1917 and in any case they were hardly equal to Lenin. As for the remains
of the old non-Trotskyist ultraleft, they still needed at least a major
economic crisis. They made any revolutionary moment contingent on its
return, and saw nothing coming. Now that they have admitted that there was a
revolutionary crisis in May they have to prove that some sort of invisible
economic crisis was taking place in early 1968. As clueless and complacent
as always, they are earnestly working on this problem, producing diagrams of
increases in prices and unemployment. For them an economic crisis is no
longer that terribly conspicuous objective reality that was so extensively
experienced and described up through 1929, but rather a sort of eucharistic
presence that is one of the foundations of their religion.
See also SIA 269-270 [new ed. 346-347].
I express the same point in
Joy of Revolution (Public Secrets, pp.
11-12):
If history followed the complacent opinions of official commentators, there
would never have been any revolutions. In any given situation there are
always plenty of ideologists ready to declare that no radical change is
possible. If the economy is functioning well, they will claim that
revolution depends on economic crises; if there is an economic crisis,
others will just as confidently declare that revolution is impossible
because people are too busy worrying about making ends meet. The former
types, surprised by the May 1968 revolt, tried to retrospectively uncover
the invisible crisis that their ideology insists must have been there. The
latter contend that the situationist perspective has been refuted by the
worsened economic conditions since that time. Actually, the situationists
simply noted that the widespread achievement of capitalist abundance had
demonstrated that guaranteed survival was no substitute for real life. The
periodic ups and downs of the economy have no bearing on that conclusion.
The fact that a few people at the top have recently managed to siphon off a
yet larger portion of the social wealth, driving increasing numbers of
people into the streets and terrorizing the rest of the population lest they
succumb to the same fate, makes the feasibility of a postscarcity society
less evident; but the material prerequisites are still present. The economic
crises held up as evidence that we need to lower our expectations are
actually caused by over-production and lack of work. The ultimate absurdity
of the present system is that unemployment is seen as a problem, with
potentially labor-saving technologies being directed toward creating new
jobs to replace the old ones they render unnecessary. The problem is not
that so many people dont have jobs, but that so many people still do. We
need to raise our expectations, not lower them.
See also SIA 332 [new ed. 423]:
While the Stalinist monster haunted working-class consciousness, capitalism
was becoming bureaucratized and overdeveloped, resolving its internal crises
and proudly proclaiming this new victory to be permanent. [i.e. the
implication is that this resolution/victory is not permanent]
And SIA 337-338 [new ed. 430-431]:
The developing concentration of capitalism and the diversification of its
global operation have given rise, on one hand, to the forced consumption of
commodities produced in abundance, and on the other, to the control of the
economy (and all of life) by bureaucrats who own the state; as well as to
direct and indirect colonialism. But this system is far from having found a
permanent solution to the incessant revolutionary crises of the historical
epoch that began two centuries ago, for a new critical phase has opened:
from Berkeley to Warsaw, from the Asturias to the Kivu, the system is being
refuted and combated. . . . The factors involved in this historical problem are
the rapid extension and modernization of the fundamental contradictions
within the present system and between that system and human desires. The
social force that has an interest in resolving these contradictions — and
the only force that is capable of resolving them — is the mass of workers
who are powerless over the use of their own lives, deprived of any control
over the fantastic accumulation of material possibilities that they produce.
Such a resolution has already been prefigured in the emergence of democratic
workers councils that make all decisions for themselves. The only
intelligent venture within the present imbecilized world is for this new
proletariat to carry out this project by forming itself into a class
unmediated by any leadership.
Here and there there are other similar statements to the effect that there
are still contradictions of various sorts (not just economic) and that they
will not be definitively resolved short of a revolution.
[October 2006]
Translating Debord (I)
[Response to a reviewer of my translation of
“The Society of the Spectacle” (“Anarchy” #61). I do not usually reply to reviews, but
in this case the
reviewer specifically asked me if I had any comments about his review, which is online here.]
Well, I think it’s misleading to contrast my translation with Nicholson-Smith’s
as being a matter of “obscurity” versus “approachability.” As if the issue was
purely one of understandability, and my version was an attempt to make the book
easier to understand at any cost (“often making choices that are stripped of a
subtlety that would evade and frustrate a first-time reader,” which makes it
sound as if I were composing a Debord for Beginners
à la Larry Law). Although I will admit that
there are places where one can disagree with my particular rendering, my aim was
to say exactly what Debord said, the way a literate English speaker would say
it. For a simple example, take the first sentence of the #5 that you quoted.
The French reads:
Le spectacle ne peut être compris comme
l’abus d’un monde de la vision, le produit des techniques de diffusion massive
des images.
The B&R version is:
The spectacle cannot be understood as an abuse of the world of vision, as a
product of the techniques of mass dissemination of images.
Pretty literal but not necessarily accurate. N-S’s clarifies it somewhat:
The spectacle cannot be understood either as a deliberate distortion of the
visual world or as a product of the technology of the mass dissemination of
images.
His “deliberate distortion” is better than “abuse” (abus does not mean
“abuse,” but something more like deception), but it’s still not totally
accurate, as there is nothing about “deliberate” in the original (the latter
gratuitous addition makes it seem more conspiratorial, whereas most of the
spectacle’s working is blind, automatic functioning, not sinister plots). And
N-S creates a false dichotomy (“either as a deliberate . . . or as a product . . .,”
whereas the original clearly indicates that the second phrase is simply a
restatement of the first (“comme l’abus d’un monde de la vision, le produit des
techniques de diffusion massive des images” — Debord does not say “vision, ou
comme le produit . . .”). Here is my version:
The spectacle cannot be understood as a mere visual deception produced by
mass-media technologies.*
Rather “free,” I will admit. But I daresay it is a more accurate expression
of what Debord actually says and means (as well as being more “readable” and
more “accessible”). “Mere” is not in the original, but is added because that’s
how we would say it in English (setting up the contrast with the second sentence
— “it is not merely A, but something more profound: B”). For another more
detailed example, see the bottom of www.bopsecrets.org/recent/reviews.htm.
Incidentally, there is nothing “unusual” about my translating Weltanschauung
as “worldview.” That’s the exact meaning. The reason Debord doesn’t do the same
is that there is no French equivalent for the German term, as there is in
English (French having trouble making such condensed nouns — it would have to
say something like “view of the world,” which doesn’t have the same punch). It
is difficult to defend one’s own translation without seeming like a pretentious
pedant, but I think that on the whole my translation is distinctly more
accurate, as well as more clear and idiomatic, than the previous ones. If I
hadn’t thought I could make significant improvements, I wouldn’t have bothered
to do it. [September 2006]
[*A French friend subsequently called my attention to the fact that, while
abuser does indeed mean “to deceive”, abus in this context means
“excess” (in the sense of misusing or overdoing something). I have thus changed
my translation to: “The spectacle cannot be understood as a mere visual excess produced by
mass-media technologies.”]
Translating Debord (II)
[Response to a Hong Kong correspondent who is
translating “The Society of the Spectacle” into Chinese, and who asked for any
general pointers I might have.]
As for general pointers,
you should check How Not
To Translate Situationist Texts for a few examples of how I translate (as
well as examples of what to avoid). In general, I suggest starting with a rather
literal translation (just to make sure that each word or phrase is included and
understood). Then carefully consider/investigate what the sentence means. Then
step back and try to imagine how a literate Chinese person would express that
meaning. When you have done that, then go back over the literal version to see
if anything has been lost. If it has, you may need to rewrite your translation
to incorporate that aspect, which may mean that it will sound a bit strange in
Chinese. In some cases the best you can do is a somewhat awkward compromise. You
must above all convey the meaning; but that meaning must be conveyed as far as
possible in a reasonably fluent Chinese style. In most cases this will be
possible, but it will require you to spend much more time and thought and
experimentation. In some cases I spent several hours trying to figure out the
best way to express some difficult sentence. Sometimes the best I could do was
still not completely satisfactory. In other cases I finally arrived at what I
consider to be a rather good rendering, as in the following sentence from thesis
178:
Dans cet espace mouvant du jeu, et des variations librement
choisies des règles du jeu, l’autonomie du
lieu peut se retrouver, sans réintroduire un
attachement exclusif au sol, et par là
ramener la réalité
du voyage, et de la vie comprise comme un voyage ayant en lui-même
tout son sens. In this game’s space, and in the freely chosen
variations of the game’s rules, the autonomy of place can be rediscovered
without the reintroduction of an exclusive attachment to the land, thus
bringing back the reality of the voyage and of life understood as a voyage
which contains its entire meaning within itself. [Black & Red]
By virtue of the resulting mobile space of play, and by virtue of freely
chosen variations in the rules of the game, the independence of places will be
rediscovered without any new exclusive tie to the soil, and thus too the
authentic journey will be restored to us, along with authentic life understood
as a journey containing its whole meaning within itself. [Nicholson-Smith]
The ever-changing playing field of this new world and the freely chosen
variations in the rules of the game will regenerate a diversity of local
scenes that are independent without being insular. And this diversity will
revive the possibility of authentic journeys journeys within an authentic
life that is itself understood as a journey containing its whole meaning
within itself. [Knabb]
If you know English well enough, I think you will see how my
version avoids several awkwardnesses and unclarities of the previous versions.
The middle portion (will regenerate a diversity of local scenes that are
independent without being insular”) is not very literal, but I think that if you
examine the original carefully, you will agree that it conveys Debord’s actual
meaning both precisely and concisely. In the great majority of
cases you should stick closely to the literal sense. I give this example of an
extreme case of not necessarily sticking to a literal version in order to remind
you that what is ultimately important is to convey the meaning. Needless to say,
I do not mean to alter or simplify the meaning in order to make it easier to
understand.” I mean to find out for yourself what Debord means and to express
that meaning in literate Chinese. If you find some problematic
passage, feel free to mention it to me, and I will try to specify the meaning or
to explain why I chose to translate it as I did. [February 2007]
Translating Debord (III)
[Response to a message by John McHale suggesting a number of
possible revisions of my translation of Debords Complete Cinematic Works.]
Thanks very much for your critiques and suggestions re CCW. It is always
gratifying to find people reading one’s work so closely and carefully!
This said, only four of them convinced me to modify my version. I corrected two
typos that you pointed out (pp. 5 and 149) and added two new notes (re Swift and
Wordsworth). I already knew about the Wordsworth but had not thought to mention
it. I had searched in vain for the Swift quote, misled by Debord’s erroneous
reference to an essay rather than to Gulliver’s Travels. A couple of your
other points had already been noted in my online
Errata and corrected in the
online versions of the texts. Of your many other remarks, some
call for no response, e.g. when you cite a published translation of a quote but
I have used another or composed an alternative version that I find preferable.
In one or two cases, you are mistaken. E.g. cynisme (p. 134) in French
has a slightly broader connotation than in English — it can (and in this context
obviously does) mean “impudence” instead of or in addition to “cynicism.” Many
of your other remarks present valid points, but do not convince me. I was aware
of virtually all the nuances you point out, but as you know, you sometimes have
to choose the least bad rendering since none will completely reproduce all the
original connotations. In some cases, it’s a tossup: If I were starting afresh,
I might go along with your suggestion, but could just as readily stick with what
is there now. In others, I think that your suggestion would actually make things
worse — either because it would blur or cancel out some other important nuance
or because it simply does not read smoothly and lucidly. In a few cases, such as
the sentence on p. 126, any choice is probably doomed to be both clumsy and
unclear (as is the original French). A general note: One of the
key points about détournements is that they
are supposed to be irreverently practical. Just as the main idea is to seize
something and turn it to one’s own use, regardless of the original context, so,
if the original (because of different eras or languages) is inadequate in some
way, it makes no sense to preserve it rigidly word for word on the grounds that
“it was detourned from Shakespeare” or whomever. In some cases, this can lead to
the opposite of what is intended. For example, the actual Swift quote is
downright misleading (“can possibly meet with no censurers” in modern English
implies that it also could possibly meet with censurers; to say nothing
of the fact that “censurers” now evokes the notion of censorship, which is a
quite different matter), whereas the sense of the French translation cited by Debord is quite
clear. Again, the French version of the Shakespeare passage on p. 75 is actually
“better” than the original, in the sense that it conveys more clearly what
Debord means (i.e. he is not determined to “hate” the idle pleasures, but to
disrupt or spoil them). I cite these two examples as extreme cases. Normally, of
course, I seek the exact quotation. But I would feel disloyal to Debord and to
his viewers if I were to mechanically stick to the original quote at the cost of
falsifying Debord’s actual meaning. The purpose of détournement
is precisely to find the best expression, even if it is necessary to steal it
from someone else; it is not to pedantically showcase the stolen original at the
cost of the clarity and cogency (and poetry) of the current work, which would be
a perfect example of the dead dominating the living. (To use an
example from my own writing, a sentence of The Joy of Revolution was
originally taken verbatim from an English translation of Descartes, but when we
translated my text into French I did not insist on reproducing the original
Descartes sentence, because my co-translator said that a somewhat different
sentence presented the same idea more clearly.) Again, thank you
for your thoughtful comments. I appreciate being forced to reexamine all the
nuances and possibilities, even if I ultimately decided to stick with most of my
original choices. Please feel free to direct the same careful attention to any
of my other writings or translations! I was also happy to hear
that you had contributed numerous corrections to the forthcoming translation of
a volume of Debord’s Correspondence. Although I have criticized some of the
style of your own translations, I recognize that you are devoted to the most
rigorous accuracy in these matters, so I expect that your contributions will
make that volume much less inaccurate that it would otherwise have been.
[October 2008]
Pleasures and their limits
under present conditions
[Response to a
correspondent who felt that my enthusiasm for
various personal activities (Zen practice, folk music, rock climbing,
etc.) was insufficiently critical because such activities serve to reinforce peoples acceptance
of the dominant system. I not wish to deny that there are pleasures and
benefits to be found in meditation and the other activities you mentioned.
However, I think we must be keenly aware that contemporary spectacular society
increasingly secures the acquiescence of ordinary people (including, of course,
ourselves) less through crude repressions than by means of the pleasures it
fosters and delivers. If we are not to enter the spectacle of decomposition as
one more voice condemning the dominant society in abstraction while at the same
time extolling one or another consumable niche, we surely must be critical of
our own pleasures and the pleasures of others. We should acknowledge that any
pleasure that is consistent with the persistence of spectacular society is in
all probability at least partly spectacular in nature; and, in that spirit, we
should seek out and expose the alienated origins (or distortions) of the tastes
we pleasurably indulge. Equally, we should not deny or conceal the awareness
that such pleasures are inadequate, that the multiple confinements to which our
pleasures are inevitably subject within a society of separation render them more
or less paltry, especially when the possibilities of the epoch are considered.
What I have in mind is thus a balance between taking such pleasure as we can, if
only to keep ourselves from depression, isolation and madness, and feeling and
manifesting contempt and dissatisfaction toward those same pleasures.” He went
on to stress the importance of “clear and public statements” to cut through
people’s illusions and mentioned that in a forthcoming text on Berlin he intended “to attack the
pleasures I take during my visits to the city.”]
I understand the points you are making and agree with them to a certain extent.
But I believe that if you stick too narrowly to these notions you will arrive at
nothing but a very silly and pointless souring of everything you do. Strictly
speaking, your points could apply to virtually anything enjoying food and
drink, making love, taking a walk in the woods, relaxing, dancing, humming a
tune, playing a game, etc., etc. All of these things are indeed allowed by the
current social system and could be said to support or reinforce it insofar
as they help keep people physically and mentally functional, help prevent them
from going insane or committing suicide, make the society seem somewhat more
tolerable, take up time that might otherwise be devoted to radical activity,
etc. Does that mean that each time you sit down to a meal with some friends you
should remind them that what they are about to do is not revolutionary, and urge
them to guard against the possibility that the pleasure of the food and
socializing may tend to make them feel a little less angry and alienated? When I
sing folk songs with some friends, would you suggest that I preface each song
with a grim acknowledgment that singing it is consistent with the persistence
of spectacular society and at least partly spectacular in nature? As for
“clear and public statements, I have made a number of relatively sharp
critiques of the limitations of Buddhist ideas and practices (notably my two
leaflets re engaged Buddhism, but also
scattered remarks in The Joy of Revolution, The
Realization and Suppression of Religion, my autobiography and elsewhere re
the downsides of religion,
the limits of
nonviolence, etc.). Many of the people I have practiced Zen with over the
years are well aware of my views, and some of them share them to some extent
even if they do not fully grasp the whole situationist perspective. In any case,
I dont go there to discuss politics but to take part in the practice, which
involves paying wholehearted attention to whatever it is were doing at the
moment, however seemingly paltry and insignificant. Our present-day lives
obviously fall far short of what they could be in a more sanely organized
society, but I think it is missing the point to conclude that we should
constantly manifest contempt and dissatisfaction toward the pleasures
available to us now. A postrevolutionary society, if we are ever lucky enough
arrive at one, will not be some nonstop orgasm. Its pleasures will still consist
largely of simple little things like a kiss, a smile, a song, a cup of tea, a
breath of fresh air, though such things will be multiplied and enrichened by the
radically different social context in which they occur. Just as I have no
significant problem with many of these limited activities, I also have no
problem if someone makes a more aggressive and explicit critique of them. I
think thats fine, Im all for it if you happen to be particularly moved to do
so. But you have to bear in mind that this sort of thing gets awfully old
awfully fast. I disrupted a couple of poetry readings back in 1970 (the
Gary Snyder reading and also the Ode
on the Absence of Real Poetry Here This Afternoon that I read at an open
reading), but I have not done so since then. If the issue comes up, I may tell
someone that I like this or that poem but that on the whole I see certain
limitations in poetry, and perhaps mention my Snyder disruption or the
situationist ideas about the realization and suppression of art. I still feel
very good about having done that Snyder disruption because it represented a
personal turning point for me as well as a challenge for others as I said in
the autobiography, I believe that at that moment I was in a sense being more
truly creative and poetic than Snyder was. But if I had continued to show up
at every local poetry reading with substantially the same critique it would soon
have become completely boring for me as well as for everyone else, and would
have been unlikely to inspire any interest at all. You have to keep moving. In
this regard, I encourage you to approach Berlin with an open mind ready
indeed to call attention to its problems, but also ready to appreciate whatever
you may discover that is new and unexpected. I will have no interest in reading
a thousandth version of how alienated modern cities are, but I will read with
interest a candid account of your experiences and experiments there, which will
naturally include, but hopefully not be dominated by, your awareness of the
citys problematic aspects. To sum up, if you feel deeply moved to express
critiques of the illusions or limitations involved in this or that activity, by
all means do so. But I think that people who dwell on such things rarely
accomplish anything but souring their own lives and boring everyone else.
[January 2008]
[This correspondent, Wayne Spencer, has posted our complete exchange on this
topic at his blog under the title
A Discussion with Ken Knabb.]
Rejection of an academic
invitation
[Response to a college teacher
who wished to introduce her students to the situationists, in particular to their
psychogeographical explorations, and who asked if I would be
interested in speaking to her class.]
Thanks for your offer, but I
will respectfully decline. For the most part, I (like the original situationists
themselves) have maintained a pretty low profile and have declined invitations
to give talks, interviews, etc. (see
Public Secrets p. 140).* I dont have a hard line on this those local
film appearances you mention represent a recent experiment on my part to see how
such appearances might work out in that particular context but on the whole I
remain convinced that the things I have written or translated speak quite well
for themselves without requiring any in-person presence. There is a rich mass
of informative and suggestive material in those publications, including lots of
articles on dérives, psychogeography,
urbanism, etc. more than enough to help any person with initiative to get
started in their own experiments. If they dont have such initiative but are
merely trying to get through some class, I have no particular interest in
feeding their passive curiosity. I do not mean to seem dismissive of your
efforts. If I was a teacher Id probably try doing some of the things you are.
In a separate message I will send you links to some of the
psychogeography-related texts at my website to which you may want to direct your
students. But I suggest that at the same time you ask them to read
On the Poverty of Student
Life so that you and they can also look closer to home, considering and
discussing the more banal and less exotic social geography of the academia in
which you find yourselves. [January 2008]
[*The passage referred to, which can be found online
here, reads in part as follows:
Since the original SI members have
generally remained unavailable, I have sometimes been considered the next best thing, and
have been asked to do booksignings, to grant interviews, to give talks, to be videotaped,
to contribute to various publications, to provide information for graduate theses, to take
part in radical conferences and academic symposiums, to be a visiting artist
at an art institute, and even to furnish background material for a television program. I
have refused all these requests. . . . Although Im somewhat less rigorous in
these matters than was the SI, when I am asked to present or represent the
situationist perspective I feel I convey that perspective most incisively by
refusing the kinds of things the situationists themselves consistently refused. Anyone is free to reprint, adapt or comment on the
SI Anthology or any of my other
publications. I can’t take seriously those who never do so while seeking some
personal encounter or scoop designed to give spectators the impression they have
gotten some inside dope about texts they often haven’t even bothered to read,
much less put into practice. It seems to me that maintaining this distance puts
things on the clearest basis.]
[As I said, I don’t have a hard line about these matters. I
am usually happy to provide information or to answer reasonably pertinent and
specific questions (as opposed to vague generalities like “Could you explain what
situationism is?” or “In your opinion what influence have the situationists had
on the world?”) and on occasion I have taken part in certain public events.
During the last year, for example, I have been providing introductory remarks and
answering questions at several Bay Area showings of Debord’s films. It may be
that as time goes on I will do more of these sorts of thing if they
seem like they might be useful and interesting. But my main point still
holds: I am interested in contributing to inventive radical
experiments carried out by autonomous participants, not in providing idle entertainment to feed people’s passive
curiosity.]
Situationist Anthology bias?
[“Your selection of certain authors and removal of others in your
anthology of the SI has been criticized. Do you
have any comment? You are also described as having chosen the political side of
situationism and left aside the artistic movement. Is that correct?”]
I believe that my anthology is generally very balanced and comprehensive. The
academics and cultural avant-gardists who have a horror of social revolution, or
who are cluelessly oblivious to it, naturally prefer the earlier, more
“artistic” aspects of the SI (and even more, of the pre-SI period), which offer
exotic intrigue for fascinated spectators without presenting any real challenge
to their own lives. That early period is indeed very interesting, and it was
that point of departure that gave the situationists a more profound experiential
grounding in culture and everyday life than other radical groups. But
conversely, those early adventures derive much of their interest from their
connection with the later political adventures. Without those later adventures
(Strasbourg, May 68, etc.), virtually no one would ever have heard of the
obscure early adventures back in the 1950s. In any case, my “bias” in this
regard is greatly exaggerated. One critic claimed that my SI Anthology
includes “virtually nothing from the first third of the group’s existence.”
Actually the SIA includes 7 articles (43 pages) of pre-SI texts and 22
articles (85 pages) from the first third of the SI’s existence
(1957-1962) a rather substantial amount of material, although I do indeed
present even more material from the last two-thirds of the group’s existence.
Incidentally, these critics do not seem to have noticed that one of the reasons
for this imbalance is that the later period had a lot more substantial material
to draw from. Issues 10-12 of Internationale Situationniste contain almost as
many pages as the first nine issues put together, and in general the quality
gets better as they go along. Does anyone really think I should have left out
some of those superlative analyses of May 68, China, Czechoslovakia, Vietnam,
Algeria, Watts, etc., so that I could include a few more early SI texts, or even
some of the pompous twaddle by the excluded Nashists and other neo-artists who
were only briefly in the SI and who never seem to have really grasped what it
was all about? It was not I, but the SI that “left aside the artistic movement”
in order to move on to a broader terrain of activity.
As I noted in my autobiography [1997]:
A few other critics claimed that I “concealed” the earlier, more cultural
phase of the SI. The Anthology is admittedly weighted somewhat toward the
situationists’ later, more “political” period (without which no one but a few
specialists in obscure avant-garde movements would have ever heard of them), but
the main features of the earlier phase could hardly escape anyone who reads the
first dozen articles of the book. I probably would have included more selections
from Potlatch and other pre-SI material if it had been available at the time
[i.e. 1981, when Potlatch and much of the other pre-SI material was not
accessible anywhere]; but if I didn’t go into the subsequent history of the
“Nashists” and other artistic tendencies this is because I think they are of
little interest and have little to do with the situationists’ most original and
vital contributions. Since the book’s appearance these critics have had fifteen
years to publish the vital texts I supposedly concealed; so far what they have
come up with has not been overwhelming.
[March 2008]
[Response to a question about “the situationists’ and your position on specialization. To my understanding they/you are against it, and support
eliminating jobs and rotating the remaining necessary tasks. How does this
economy provide medical doctors, engineers, and other specialized positions that
would still exist without the spectacle?”]
I touch on this issue in a few places in the last chapter of
The Joy of Revolution. In
the section “Consensus, Majority Rule and Unavoidable Hierarchies” I quote the
situationists’ call for “abolition of hierarchy and independent
specializations.” The key word here is independent, which in this context
means a separate professional clique that is independent from popular control,
capable of holding the rest of society hostage because they hold a monopoly on
some type of technical expertise or “trade secrets.” A few paragraphs later I
say:
A nonhierarchical society does not mean that everyone magically becomes
equally talented or must participate equally in everything; it simply means that
materially based and reinforced hierarchies have been eliminated. Although
differences of abilities will undoubtedly diminish when everyone is encouraged
to develop their fullest potentials, the point is that whatever differences
remain will no longer be transformed into differences of wealth or power. People
will be able to take part in a far wider range of activities than they do now,
but they won’t have to rotate all positions all the time if they don’t feel like
it. If someone has a special taste and knack for a certain task, others will
probably be happy to let her do it as much as she wants at least until
someone else wants a shot at it. “Independent specializations” (monopolistic
control over socially vital information or technologies) will be abolished;
open, nondominating specializations will flourish. People will still ask more
knowledgeable persons for advice when they feel the need for it (though if they
are curious or suspicious they will always be encouraged to investigate for
themselves). They will still be free to voluntarily submit themselves as
students to a teacher, apprentices to a master, players to a coach or performers
to a director remaining equally free to discontinue the relation at any time.
In some activities, such as group folksinging, anyone can join right in; others,
such as performing a classical concerto, may require rigorous training and
coherent direction, with some people taking leading roles, others following, and
others being happy just to listen. There should be plenty of opportunity for
both types. The situationist critique of the spectacle is a critique of an
excessive tendency in present society; it does not imply that everyone must be
an “active participant” twenty-four hours a day.
Later, in the “Blossoming of Free Communities” section, I say:
More than enough people will gravitate to socially necessary projects, in
agronomy, medicine, engineering, educational innovation, environmental
restoration and so on, for no other reason than that they find them interesting
and satisfying. Others may prefer less utilitarian pursuits. . . .
The idea is that we need to abolish the sorts of specializations that entail
a small group’s monopolistic control over some field, not specialization as
such. Medical care is an obvious example of an area where we will continue to
need some degree of specialization (though there will no doubt be some
simplification as the emphasis shifts to widespread awareness of preventive
medicine and healthier lifestyles, rather than supercomplicated surgical fixes).
The point is that certain people will study and develop their skills in this
type of specialization because they like it, sense that they are good at it, and
find it satisfying to help people, not because they can make big bucks and block
others from figuring out cheaper and more effective ways to accomplish the same
goals. Once people have seen through, and gone beyond, the mass of artificially
maintained pseudoneeds, they will soon enough figure out which specialized
skills really are still needed, and they will then see to it that appropriate
schools, hospitals, research facilities, etc., are made available to produce or
implement such specializations.
[April 2008]
[“Assuming that you are still interested in Reich, are there any book
recommendations you can make on practical applications of Reichian techniques?
The material in your book [“Public Secrets”] gives the only hints I have come
across so far. I have read a number of works by and about Reich, some of which
are quite bizarre, particularly those that deal with his later theories.”]
I have never delved very much into “practical applications” of Reich beyond a
few exercises gleaned from books by the neo-Reichian Alexander Lowen and a few
loose, improvised experiments described or hinted at in my
Case Study, where I
played around with different combinations of free association, dérives, dream
analyses, encounters, etc. In any case, I am very dubious about Reich’s later
“orgone” theories, as well as about the post-Reichian trips like those you
mention that depoliticize his works and concentrate exclusively on some sort of
self-centered self-therapy. Some of Reich’s methods may produce significant
personal results, but I’m not sure that they amount to anything very different
from what can be obtained through many other types of physical and/or spiritual
disciplines (yoga, tai chi, chigong, zazen, sufi dancing, etc., etc.). I think
it is ultimately more important to navigate your way through life in a more
open-ended manner, to continually experiment with sequences or combinations of
activities that juxtapose different aspects of life, rather than fixating too
narrowly on any one particular trip. I am not impressed by people who have
achieved a certain psychological or sexual liberation if they remain politically
clueless, just as I note that people who have some political awareness are often
incapable of using that awareness in any practical way, in part due to their
personal repressions.
The Irrational in Politics (by Maurice Brinton) is online at
http://libcom.org/library/Irrational-in-politics-Maurice-Brinton. It’s also
included in the recent collection of Brinton’s work, For Workers’ Power.
I haven’t reread it in a long time, but I remember it as providing a pretty good
summary of Reich’s most valid aspects.
[April 2008]
Peak Oil? (I)
[Reply to a Spanish contact (I have slightly corrected his English style):
I write to ask you what you think about peak oil.’ I guess you know what I’m
talking about: the end of cheap oil and the collapse of global capitalism. . . .
I think we cannot ignore the facts: the market economy is going to collapse in a
few years. It seems that history is finally proving right all the people who
tried to radically change the roots of society. But as we know, we have not
succeeded. Market economy rules the world, and everyone is addicted to its
paradigms. But now it will be every year more clear that this system is built on
a big lie which cannot be believed anymore. It seems strange to me that people like
you and me, who call themselves revolutionary,’ don’t see the completely new
situation we are in. Today more than ever there is the need to go out of the
market economy and create and organize new ways of living, without any
dependancy on the system. It’s futile to try to reform or subvert capitalist
society today: this society is going to collapse in a few years. We have to spread
the reasons why it is going to collapse (the irrationality of capitalism and the
market economy) and quickly organize the alternatives, but now it’s not a matter
of our desires’ as it was for the situationists, its not only the mediocrity
of modern society, now its almost a matter of survival! Councilist
organization, self-management practice, and autonomous values are today a
matter of survival for the whole society! . . . Dont you think that revolutionary
theory has to meet with these facts? I do think we have to check and reform our
theories due to this completely new situation we are entering: the global
decline of capitalism.”]
I am aware of the peak oil theory, and also of some other views that question
that theory. In either case, I question whether our situation is completely
new. It has been evident for at least the last 50 years that humanity is facing
a series of crises of various overlapping kinds (ecological, economic,
socio-political, psycho-spiritual) that will lead to global ecological
disaster if we do not succeed in radically transforming the present social
system. The situationists and others referred to this unavoidable choice (see,
for example, The Real Split in the International ##15-18, 1972) and
Rexroth evoked it even earlier and more often (see, for example, the two
articles on ecology at
www.bopsecrets.org/rexroth/sf/1968-69.htm). There were differences
of prognosis, some thinking that nuclear war would destroy the world within a
decade or two, others that overpopulation would do so within the next
half-century, others that the ecological point of no return had already been
passed, though its ultimate effects would not be evident till some time later
(Rexroth tended toward this latter view).
My point here is not that these earlier prognoses were wrong. (They were
mostly on the right track, but other factors entered in to postpone the
disasters for a few more decades.) It is to point out that people have a
tendency to focus on some particular crisis and to panic Alas! This is the
ultimate threat, and its coming right away! We must immediately drop everything
else to avert it! Were fighting for our very survival, hence we dont have time
to fight for the quality of our lives! But as the situationists pointed out, if
we merely fight for survival, we remain on the defensive, stuck on the terrain
of the system, and thus we will inevitably fail. It is only by fighting for
real life for a truly satisfying, qualitatively different mode of life and society
that we can really challenge the mindlessly destructive forces and tendencies
that are leading toward global disaster. As Vaneigem put it, We can survive
only as antisurvivors. [www.bopsecrets.org/SI/8.basic2.htm
#16] I expanded on that point in one of my leaflets 15 years ago:
One of the May 1968 graffiti was: Be realistic, demand the impossible.
“Constructive alternatives” within the context of the present social order are
at best limited, temporary, ambiguous; they tend to be coopted and become part
of the problem. We may be forced to deal with certain urgent issues such as war
or environmental threats, but if we accept the system’s own terms and confine
ourselves to merely reacting to each new mess produced by it, we will never
overcome it. Ultimately we can solve survival issues only by refusing to be
blackmailed by them, by aggressively going beyond them to challenge the whole
anachronistic social organization of life. Movements that limit themselves to
cringing defensive protests will not even achieve the pitiful survival goals
they set for themselves. [www.bopsecrets.org/PS/buddhists.htm]
It may be that the peak oil theory is right and we will experience some
severe social collapse in the near future. Or it may be that its critics are
right and that other factors will mitigate or postpone that collapse for some
time (so that it is, say, 30 years away instead of 10). In that case, some other
disaster may come first (global warming, the destruction of the oceans, some
combination of increased environmental poisoning and/or famines and/or diseases,
a chain reaction of wars or of insane fascistic or fundamentalist mass
movements, etc.). These and many other crises and potential disasters have been
around for many decades. They are indeed serious. We have to address them. But
we have to address them all at once, as part of a comprehensive, holistic
perspective. This is why I am leery of any tendency to make a fetish out of any
one particular crisis. Such notions tend to make people panic and thus ignore
other equally important factors. A crude example: if people see peak oil as
the
problem, they will tend to support some politician who promises to deal with it
better than other politicians, even though all these politicians help maintain
many other aspects of the system that is ultimately responsible for these
crises.
I agree with you that it is important to call attention to these impending
crises, but I think that (1) we should not be stuck too exclusively in one
prognosis (The system will collapse in the following way, within the following
time frame, due to peak oil) and (2) we have to be careful not to fall into the
trap of our desperation giving rise to simplistic alternatives. When you say:
Today more than ever there is the need to go out of the market economy and
create and organize new ways of living, without any dependancy on the system,
it sounds like youre suggesting notions such as going off to create a country
commune that raises its own food, etc. I dont think theres anything wrong with
trying to do that if such projects appeal to you, but I dont think that such
things represent a genuine escape from the system. The system itself, with all
its cities and factories etc., must ultimately be dealt with. It will not just
neatly collapse, leaving people free to set up nice alternative ecological
lifestyles outside of it. You are right that it is not enough to just reform
it. It must be actively and creatively transformed from top to bottom. This is a
very complex project, and we may not succeed. But I dont think that anything
less will work. When people fetishize some bad thing (This is the crucial
problem, so urgent that everything else pales by comparison!) then they tend to
rally to some alternative, equally simplistic fetish (We must all immediately
stop driving, raise our own food, form country communes, become vegan . . .) which
tends to produce a narrow, sectarian, survivalist mentality among a supposedly
enlightened minority (We are doing our part, but all those other clueless
people are still living within the system) while leaving the system free to
grind on in its destructive way.
To sum up: I agree that our theories must address these kinds of crises. But
I do not agree that these crises are completely new. They have been around for
some time now, and certain theories, including (in rather different ways) that
of the situationists and that of Rexroth, have already addressed them pretty
profoundly and explicitly.
[August 2008]
[A correspondent asked to interview me on the ecological crisis. In addition
to stating my general disinclination to be interviewed, I replied that, in any
case, on that particular topic I have nothing particular to say that multitudes
of others havent already said. He then wrote: While you may know of a
multitudes of others who understand and continually make the points you raised
in your letter to a Spanish writer on the subject of Peak Oil, I do
not. Specifically I do not know of anyone alive today who can articulate a
vision of how to tackle all of the crises at once and why that is necessary. If
you can recommend someone who is speaking about the ecological crisis and the
need to move beyond survivalism, the need to avoid making a fetish of any
particular crisis, I would appreciate it. My reply is below.]
I think you exaggerate the difficulty of finding people who are aware that
there are lots of different crises and that most of these crises are systemic
i.e. are ultimately caused by the social system. Thats almost the standard
platitude among most people I know (even if many of them are not entirely clear
about the fundamental nature of the system).
As for what they think they can or should do about it, most people naturally
concentrate on some particular issue that particularly moves them or that hits
them personally in some way. Most of them do not presume that their issue is
the only one, or even the most important one; its simply something that they
are dealing with because they dont feel they can deal with everything at once.
In this regard, Peak Oil is perhaps somewhat of an exception, in that its
proponents often do argue that it is the absolutely crucial issue that must be
dealt with in priority over everything else (like people used to feel about
nuclear warfare). But as I said, most people do not have that feeling about
their particular issues. They know that saving the whales will not save the
planet, but theyd still like to save the whales. In addition, they have a vague
hope that the process of saving the whales will in some way or another
contribute to saving the planet.
Which may be the case. On the other hand, sooner or later the system itself must
be addressed it wont go away just because people make lots of little
adjustments in it.
But it also wont go away if people abstractly call on everyone to challenge it
as a whole. Everyone consists of millions of particular individuals with
particular traits and situations and limitations. They will be able to attack
the system as a whole only through a dialectical process involving a myriad of
particular issues, projects, tactics, experiments, along with a developing
theoretical understanding of all those things. (Which tactics have worked and
which havent? How does my project relate with what others have been doing?)
Only this will bring them to the point where they can act in concert on a large
scale while remaining real, autonomous persons.
This process of collective and creative self-organization is really what is
being talked about by Marx and the situationists, despite their somewhat
abstract-sounding terminology the process of the proletariat becoming
conscious of itself, the process where active direct communication is
realized, marking the end of specialization, hierarchy and separation, and
the transformation of existing conditions into conditions of unity. Its much
more complex than simplistically debating reformism versus revolution, or
“particular issues versus the totality.”
I too know of nobody alive who can articulate a vision of how to tackle all of
the crises at once. Certainly not me. I have no particular expertise about most
of these issues, and no neat general solution. I simply try to point out the
limits of various tactics and the eventual need for a comprehensive solution
that can only arise out of the process of conscious struggles and struggles for
consciousness.
You can do that yourself. And in fact thats what I suggest that you do. You
already have a certain awareness of this issue, enough awareness to be
dissatisfied with many other current views on the same topic. Theres your
starting point plunge in! State your position: why you believe that
so-and-sos position is inadequate and how you think differently.
In this process you are of course welcome to say that you think that something I
said is pertinent. In that way, you will be forced to determine just which words
of mine really are pertinent, and which arent (instead of presenting me as one
big package deal). You will be taking up (some of) my words and making them your
own, rather than asking me to speak for you.
As to where, how and to whom to state all this: You already have a blog, so that
would be your natural starting place to post. But you could also experiment with
printing things out as leaflets or posters; or speaking to particular milieus,
online or off, via emails, listserve posts, conversations, disruptions, etc., in
order to address issues relevant to those milieus the kinds of things I talk
about in chapter 2 of The Joy
of Revolution.
I think you will have much more fun doing this, and will stir up much more
contagious interest, than if you had merely interviewed me or anyone else.
[September 2009]
[Reply to a photographer living in the Netherlands who wondered if his
photographs of short playful acts in different random city locations might be
considered situationist photography.]
I would say that its fine to do the kinds of photographs youre doing, but
they do not have much to do with what the situationists were trying to do,
they are simply more or less interesting or charming photographs. To
paraphrase what the situationists said about art, there is no situationist
photography but only a potentially situationist use of photography. A
situationist use in this sense means something that inspires people to
think and act for themselves, that fosters personal reexamination, radical
experimentation, social coordination, theoretical clarification. Some
photographs, some films, some paintings, some songs, some poems, etc. may
have some slight effect in this direction, but that tendency is usually
offset by their spectacle nature, by the fact that they appear as simply one
more spectacle to be passively consumed. You have to ask yourself: What
effect are my photographs really having? If you exhibit them or publish
them on the Web, what effects are they actually having on people? If someone
tells you, That photograph is very interesting! that probably doesnt mean
much. If they tell you, Your photograph struck me so powerfully that it
inspired me to go out and do something different, that sounds more
interesting. But even then, you will have to consider what your photograph
inspired them to do before concluding that you are making a truly
situationist use of the medium.
[He then asked: “If I had an exposition and I opened it for the public
and I would publicly destroy all my photos in front of the public as an opening
act, would that be the situationist use of my photography?”]
Not necessarily. It would probably just have the effect of being a
different, more sensational or controversial or attention-grabbing
spectacle. Presenting photographs and then destroying them may disrupt the
spectators usual expectations, but so what? Wheres the substance? You
could also disrupt someones usual expectations by going up to them and
hitting them in the face, but that doesnt mean that you would be
accomplishing anything radical. Part of your problem is that youre trying
to figure out what the situationist use of photography might be, as if
there were some particular technical gimmick that would guarantee that
result, instead of simply asking yourself, What radicalizing effect would
this have?
The point is how your product (whether a photograph or a leaflet or an
action) causes or encourages others to think and act.
[November 2009]
Most of my correspondence involves personal matters or
translation projects or more or less
routine exchanges of information that would be of little interest to anyone else.
In other cases, discussions that were once topical are now rather dated, or the most
pertinent points have been incorporated into my published writings. But occasionally some text or query incites me to
go into issues that
may interest other readers. As an experiment, I am reproducing a few
examples here. KK (December 2007).
[February-August 2008: In response to a fair amount of positive feedback, I have added
several
more, and will continue.]
No copyright.
visits to this webpage (beginning 11 December 2007).
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